PREVIOUS REVIEW of RP401R & F130R - RECOMMENDED - Continuing with the older RP401R and F130R Review: These two digital pianos are the latest in a series of RP & F model pianos that Roland has produced over the years. I have played all the Roland RP & F series pianos since they came out and I must say that these two models are noticeably better than the previous RP301 & F120 models that were discontinued quite awhile ago, and the 401R is even money than the previous 301/301R model...which is always a good thing for the consumer. The lower priced models look better, sound better, play better, have more useful features, and are just overall much more satisfying and inspiring to play. They would be good for family home use, church, schools, music rooms, and offer a satisfying playing experience not only for beginners, but also for more skilled players to enjoy. So don't think these "entry level" digital piano cabinet models by Roland are only for beginners, because they are definitely not. I am happy to see that Roland made some needed improvements on these new models over the previous ones because I did not particularly like the previous models with regard to what I considered poor key action and sound in them. The new improvements and upgrades here are not only impressive to me, but really make these two models very competitive with the other major brands in this price range. In fact, when comparing the RP401R or F130R (now the 140R) to what Yamaha has to offer right now in a similar price range, Yamaha has some serious catching up to do in my opinion. Even the new Yamaha Clavinova CLP525 digital piano (approx discount price $1700) is not much better than the RP401R in many ways. Typical "life cycles" of digital pianos are approx 2-4 years until they are discontinued and a new one comes out depending on the brand and model. With this in mind I am guessing that the RP401R may have a new version of it coming out next year due to the fact that the F130R has been discontinued already in favor of its F140R replacement.
|F130R compact piano|
So what is it that makes these two new models worth considering? First of all, Roland finally got it right in this price range and has produced a very good hammer weighted graded piano key action, acoustic piano sound, and pedaling realism that far surpasses what I expected from them in this price range. Their new RP401R/F130R key action is completely redesigned from the previous model RP301/RP301R/F120 and is called Standard Keyboard action, which is far better than the previous Ivory feel-G action. The more fluid key movement, graded weighting on all keys including good touch weight (how much finger pressure needs to be exerted on a key in resting position), synthetic ivory feel material on the keytops, is all a big improvement. The new Standard Keyboard action also has an escapement/letoff feature which is impressive, and this time you can actually feel the escapement/let-off which you could not do on the previous model. Although this escapement key movement function is somewhat subtle...at least it's a bit more noticeable than in the past. Escapement/letoff feature is what grand pianos do when you're pressing the keys softly and feeling a slight hesitation bump or notch from the key movement. This is not something which absolutely necessary to have but it's nice to know it's there when you want it and no other piano in this price range has it. The previous ivory-G key action in the RP301/F120 was very noisy/thumpy when the keys struck the bottom when playing a bit harder as well as being sluggish when playing slowly and softly, and that was very irritating to me. Roland has dramatically improved this new key action by decreasing the key noise to a very acceptable level and also taking away the sluggish key movement, and I was happy to see that so no more complaints from me on those issues. There is no question that the new Standard Action has really risen to a new level. It is important to note that the new Standard action is not as good as the key actions in the higher priced Roland HP digital pianos over $2000 such as the HP504 & HP506 (which are now discontinued), but that is certainly to be expected. When I say "not as good" that simply means that although the F130R/RP401R has a good key action in this price range, you can get Roland pianos with key actions that are upgraded beyond that for even more authentic key movement. It would be like comparing a good acoustic upright piano to a good grand piano. So if you want or need an even higher level of key action authenticity (generally a smoother and slightly lighter touch), look at the the higher priced Roland HP series pianos.
When it comes to actual acoustic type piano sound, Roland has a 128-note polyphony sound chip which they call SuperNATURAL Piano. The Super natural piano sound in Roland digital pianos has been around in previous models but is different depending on the models. There are three different qualities or levels of this SuperNATURAL piano sound in the various models of Roland pianos which I call "good, better, and best." The RP/F series piano sound is good, the more expensive HP504/506 piano sound is better, and the top of the line HP508/LX15e (now discontinued) piano sound is best. Roland really should have specific names for these 3 levels of SuperNATURAL sound, but they don't...possibly just to confuse everyone...which I believe they do:). However, an experienced piano player like myself can hear the difference and I am happy to report that the 401R/F130R sound realism has been improved over the previous RP301/F120 sound chip, and it's quite noticeable. It is more balanced and sonically smooth with more organic changes in tone color across the entire 88 keys, and it doesn't have the drawbacks of the previous models, so that the piano sound upgrade really impresses me.
The dynamic tonal and volume range of expression of the acoustic piano sound is quite large and has been noticeably improved over the previous models (which I just mentioned) when playing very soft gentile music to a more aggressive loud piece of music. This is due to the new PHAIV key electronics and this is also true of the higher priced Roland models over $2000US. With this new upgraded key action the sensing of key repetition has also been improved because Roland has 3 electronic key sensors per key so that more advanced players can play complex music which requires faster note repetition and allows for more noticeable musical expression. However with certain notes played on the keyboard, the piano sound can get somewhat brassy or sharp (twangy) in my opinion when playing at higher velocities with fortissimo (loud dynamics) and this is true on any of the RP401/F130R/F140R piano sounds. Some people may like this type of tone and some people may not like it as much, it just depends what you want and the music you'll be playing. This is also true of regular acoustic pianos where some brands and models are more mellow and some are much brighter and sharper in tone. The 128-note polyphony power of these Roland pianos remains the same as in previous models which is how many notes can be played and sustained at one time. Even when layering a stereo acoustic piano sound with a 2nd stereo sound (like string symphony) or adding other digital effects on these pianos, I didn't find any note drop-out at all. The SuperNATURAL piano sound is recorded in stereo and taken partly from a Steinway grand piano and then enhanced with Roland digital sound technology. When comparing the Roland proprietary 128-note piano polyphony chip with larger 256-note polyphony chips in other brands, I find there is no discernible difference for the average person and in fact the Roland 128-note polyphony power (the amount of sound from all instruments, pedaling, and functions combined that can be played and heard at one time) does a noticeably better job in being able to play a large amount of notes using two sounds combined along with other digital features simultaneously.
Piano pedals and pedaling ability on digital pianos is also very important and should not be overlooked whether you are a beginner or advanced player. The most important pedal is the right damper/sustain pedal because that's where 95% of the pedaling happens for most beginners through recreational players. The other two pedals (soft & sostenuto) are used in much less degrees depending on the type of music being played and your pedaling skill level. Roland offers what it calls continuous detection electronics for the damper and soft pedal which means that it will allow for more incremental damper sustain time and soft tonal changes when pressing the pedals down or letting them up instead of just on or off changes the way other digital pianos work. Some piano companies have the half-damper sustain pedal electronics which also give a great range of sustain for the right damper pedal which is very good depending on the brand. I especially like continuous detection and half-damper control for more advanced players or students who are progressing in their playing skills. When I was trying out the damper sustain pedal I noticed two things which made the sustain sound more realistic. One of these things was a damper resonance feature giving the piano tone a natural organic sound such as what you would hear in acoustic pianos, along with a much longer sustain/decay time allowing for longer natural decay instead of shorter pedal decay times found in cheaper off-brands.
Natural pedal sustain/decay time is how long the sound takes to fade out after striking keys and letting them go while holding the right damper/sustain pedal all the way down. The longer the "damper/sustain pedal decay time," the better and more natural your music will be. On some digital pianos under $2000 that I have played (and I have played them all), the amount of damper pedal decay time is typically not very much when holding down the right pedal after playing some keys, especially the keys/notes on the right side of the keyboard. Those are the treble notes on the right side of the keyboard and they fade out the fastest (because they are shorter strings in a real piano while the left keys (bass notes) have the most/longest fade-out time because they are longer strings. This is a very big deal because real acoustic piano strings keep resonating for awhile after a key has been played in the normal playing range with the pedal held down, and a digital piano really needs to get close to that time to offer a natural piano sound playing experience. It takes advanced sound/pedal decay time technology in a digital piano to allow the longer pedal sustain/decay time to take place. The Roland RP401R & F130R has more natural pedal sustain/decay time including a natural volume reduction over that time, depending which notes are being played. That is substantially longer and smoother than some of the other digital pianos out there and is an important element not to be overlooked when shopping for any piano. If you are a beginner student then the better pedal technology will mean very little to you. But as the student progresses in the playing ability or you are already at an intermediate playing skill level or higher, that pedaling sustain time technology will become very important and these new Roland pianos will definitely rise to the occasion, although there are other digital brands that do a very good job too..
The middle sostenuto pedal is so seldom used that Roland has also given a person the ability to control various functions of the piano by triggering them with the middle pedal such as on/off drum rhythm function, into/endings, fill-ins, and other things which give a more professional ability to using these extra features. The middle pedal can still trigger the traditional sostenuto function, but it also does these other things too. The bottom line is that full size pedals are important in the way they move, feel, their height position on the piano, and their ability to recreate the actual acoustic piano pedaling experience, and to me that's something I look for in a digital piano. If the student is a beginner or very small where their feet cannot reach the pedals yet (little kids), then the more advanced pedaling of these new Roland pianos is irrelevant, but later on you will likely be glad you have it:).
If the new more advanced key action, piano sound, and pedaling functions was all that were in these new pianos, they would still be very competitive with other brands...but there is so much more that these pianos can do. Let's start with the instrument sounds and related features. First of all there is a total of 316 instrument tones in each of these two piano of which there are 4 primary acoustic type piano sounds in a button called "piano" along with some layered piano sounds, harpsichord, honk tonk, etc, tones. In the other sound buttons there is a large selection of strings, choirs, electric pianos, mallets, church/pop/jazz organs, voices, harps, guitars & banjos, accordions, bass, synthesizers, horns, reeds, woodwinds, special effects environmental sounds, and more in another access button called "other." These sounds are higher quality tones not necessarily found in some other brands. However, some of the tones do sound a bit fake but that is true for the other brands as well in many cases.
On the control panel, a bright LED display screen reads out info on these various sounds and other features which helps you know what sound or function is being used. You can combine two sounds together to create a layered sound and can also split the keyboard into a left and right section wherever you choose, and then assign one sound to the left hand and another sound to the right hand (such as piano on the left hand and harpsichord on the right hand for some interesting classical music), or an upright bass and cymbal on the left hand and a grand piano on the right hand for a bit of jazz, all of which is fun to do. There are also preset sound layers already built-in (such as grand piano and string symphony) which is quite nice, so that you can combine a preset layer like that one with another individual instrument sound and get 3 sounds at one time. That's a very cool thing because it gives such fullness to the overall sound to have three instruments playing at one time with every key that you touch. You may not use that type of feature often, but I personally like it, especially when trying to reproduce orchestral instrument combinations.
One of the more fun things these pianos offer is the Roland intelligent interactive chord ensemble styles. This kind of function goes way beyond just having drum rhythms or simple accompaniment sounds. The Roland interactive rhythm & chord accompaniments actually sound like real band arrangements including drums, guitars, bass, keyboards, horns, etc that you would hear a live band play. They sound like the real thing instead of toy-like sounds that you would find on some other brands of digital pianos and keyboards. With this new interactive chord accompaniment system, you control the band with the chords you play on the left hand and the right hand. This is not a new feature since all the major brands have a system like this including Yamaha, Kawai, and Casio. What makes this one unique some of the flexibility you have with adding or subtracting parts of the band playback chords as well as controlling relative volume with your right hand melody line so one does not overpower the other. There are 72 intelligent rhythm chord accompaniments with an additional more complex arrangement for each one, offering a total of 144 accompaniment patterns, and they all sound great. The band arrangements include a variety of light, medium, and heavy rock bands, jazz bands, 40's big band, swing, disco, hip-hop, boogie, country, 50's, Latin, gospel, polka, march, waltz, and ballads from all eras and music styles.
You can use the intelligent accompaniments in three different ways. The first way is you can electronically split the 88 keys into two parts wherever you choose on the keyboard, and then you play a 3 finger (or more) chord on your left hand and play a melody with your right hand to go along with the left-hand chord, and the result is that you sound like you are playing in a band, only you are controlling and determining the song you're playing. A second way of using the feature is to play 1-finger (root note) left hand intelligent chords if you don't know anything about playing piano at all so even beginners can have fun. This intelligent chord feature is great for beginners (it makes you sound better than you are:) and its also great for accomplished players who can play full chords like me because it adds an entire live band to whatever music I want to play with both hands using as many fingers as I want. I've got to say that I was very impressed with the musicality and complexity of these accompaniment chord patterns and the fact you could also control other aspects of the intelligent chords by taking out or muting the actual instruments, bass line, or drum rhythms, or a combination of two or more of those functions while you're playing the chord. It's like you have total control of the band and I find that very liberating and useful as compared to other pianos like this under $3000. You can even use the drum beat patterns by themselves to help you with your rhythm and timing by adding a drum beat to your music (instead of using the metronome) without using the interactive chord arrangements. There are super cool intro's and endings for the arrangements that make the music sound naturally organic, and it offers professional band play-along realism at the touch of a button.
When playing chords in the split mode (left hand/right hand), it recognizes the proper bass line no matter what inversion of the chord you are playing (root, 1st inversion, 2nd inversion), and that makes the song you're playing sound musically correct all the time. Prior Roland piano models could not do this so it's a nice improvement. There is a 3rd way of using interactive intelligent chord accompaniments playing your music wherever your hands are on the keyboard without you splitting the keyboard into two distinct parts and having to keep your left hand on the left side all the time. With this method, which is useful for more advanced players, the bass line will follow the outline of the chord inversion and play those notes rather than root position notes in the normal accompaniment split position. This feature is called "leading bass" and for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, don't
worry about it because it really won't matter to you in using this interactive chord feature. The advanced players will appreciate this 2nd way of using the accompaniments because then you can determine the bass line by the chord structure and play keys anywhere on the piano without constraint. One thing is for sure, you'll have fun no matter how you choose to use this new intelligent accompaniment system. You can also change key and transpose the right hand instrument sounds as well as interactive chord accompaniments so that you can play in a key more conducive to your singing range for singalong, or if you just want to modulate to a different key to change it up a bit. One downside to the transpose function is that you need to go into the editing menu to get that to happens and make changes. Roland should have had a dedicated transpose button on the control panel for easier access as some other digital pianos do because going into the editing menu is not intuitive to get to the transpose feature to work. Why Roland did not ask me about designing it the better way on these models, I don't know...but they should have:). When it comes to the rhythm section, you can control the rhythm by selecting any tempo/speed and even do some sing-along by plugging in a microphone directly into an audio input of piano. It's true that there may be some people who may not be using the interactive accompaniment ensemble features much, and that's fine because you don't have to use it. But for other people (like me), it's nice to have it there and be able to have more musical enjoyment because you feel like you are part of a real band or orchestra...and to me that's always fun.
|F130R control panel buttons|
On the down side of the recording features, I would liked to have seen a 2-track MIDI recorder built in to these new models instead of just the one track so that you could record left & right hand independently and play them back independently or at the same time. With a few exceptions, most of the other pianos and brands in this price range have at least 2-track MIDI recording and playback, but many of those pianos do not have the high quality CD audio wav file playback feature which also allows you to mute the melody track as well as slow down tempo or change key. So there are always trade-offs and having the CD quality audio wav file playback is pretty cool and something you don't usually see in this price range in a furniture cabinet digital piano, although the new Casio AP460 does have audio recording and that model is just $1499 internet price.
There are a couple of nice caveats to the 1-track MIDI recorder on these pianos; the control panel will allow you to actually record 2 separate tracks provided you use the split keyboard function with one instrument sound on the left hand and a different instrument sound on the right hand, like piano on left and electric piano on right, or whatever two sounds you choose. In this way the 2 parts can be played back one at a time or together and you can play live on top of that. The same is true when you layer two sounds together as they will be recorded independently on right and left channels played back together or independently. You can even rewind & fast forward digitally. But as far as the traditional left hand/right hand 2 -track recording which is preferable, these Roland pianos cannot do that.
The Roland RP401R/F130R models can playback General MIDI/GM song files from a USB flashdrive which is a great feature and one I use all the time in my studio for teaching and playing professionally. The General MIDI song format allows you to play your live piano parts along "with the band or orchestra" using well known songs or lesson book songs (from popular lesson curriculum) in the General MIDI format and to interact with up to 16 instruments playing at one time (stored on a USB flashdrive inserted in the piano) using thousands of popular songs which can be found on the Internet such as movie theme songs, Christmas, famous pop, country, Latin, or Jazz music, and so on. The two largest publishers of piano lesson books in the US have produced General MIDI (GM) files for their lesson books for student playalong and the RP401R and F130R are two of the few digital piano cabinet pianos of the major brands between $1000-$2000 that can play full General MIDI format 16 track songs. For more info on the General MIDI format go to the following link: General MIDI and Playing Piano.
Another useful educational feature offered on these pianos is the ability to electronically split the 88 keys into two equal 44-note keyboards which Roland calls twin piano. This feature digitally sets up the two 44-note keyboards to have the identical piano sound in the identical octave while having the right pedal be used for sustain for the right 44 notes, and the left pedal becomes sustain for the left 44-notes. This allows for two people to play the music at the same time playing the same notes in the same key with the same sound. It's useful when a teacher and student are playing at the same time in a lesson, or when two family members are playing the same song at the same time. Although I have seen similar duet type functions on other digital piano brands and models, it's definitely a specialized function and not everyone needs or wants it because they'll just never use it. But for others, it could come in handy depending on what you are doing musically. Finally, as far as fun educational features go, there are nearly two hundred famous and useful piano practice songs in the memory of the RP401R/F130R to be accessed by the touch of a couple buttons. The actual notation and control of these songs can be visually accessed by the Roland Piano Partner iPad app using an iPad connected wirelessly to the piano. This kind of feature makes practicing not only fun, but it's motivational and helps with learning music. I talk more about the Roland iPad apps and connectivity below.
As with most other digital pianos, there are many editing features in the RP401R/F130R which include being able to incrementally adjust the brightness level of the sound coming through the piano or headphones which allows you to customize the overall sound from mellow to very bright., You can also adjust the ambiance/reverb amount from minimum up to maximum, change volumes of many functions & features, select and change metronome beat and tempo, adjust 5 separate levels of key touch sensitivity, change relative volumes between left and right hand parts and accompaniments, and digitally limit the maximum volume of the piano so that you can limit the total loudness through speakers or headphones even if a child should turn the volume all the way up. You can also save editing changes you make in the piano to a user memory so that they will instantly come back up again upon powering the piano up at another time, and other editing functions. A few other full featured digital pianos under $2000 can also do these things and it is very helpful to have these features.
A brand new feature I found very interesting was the 3D effect through stereo headphones. It's supposed to give you the impression the piano sound is all around you coming from different directions as opposed to directly into your ears. Roland calls it "an immersive sound experience" which gives you the feeling you're not actually wearing headphones at all...and that's really the point of this feature. I tried it out and found that overall it was but but had a less distinct sound (especially when playing the piano sound) than it would normally otherwise have listening through stereo headphones without this feature. The 3D effect can also be adjusted incrementally to your personal tastes. It actually did sound like I wasn't wearing headphones when playing the piano...although I was:). I think I personally prefer to have this 3D feature in the "off mode" as the piano sound is a bit more clear and immediate in its reproduction and does not sound so "far away" as it seems to sound in the 3D mode. But that is my own personal taste and you may feel differently about it if and when you try it. This headphone 3D sound effect comes on automatically when powering up the piano but can be turned on or off . Also, it's important to have/own good sounding stereo headphones for private playing because you want to capture all the nuances and quality of the piano sound dynamics and tonal reproduction along with the 3D sound effect if you choose to use that. The RP401 has two headphone jacks (mini & 1/4") so that two people can listen in privacy at the same time. You don't need special "3D headphones" if you want the 3D effect because the Roland 3D effect works with any standard pair of stereo headphones. I can give you some good headphone recommendations if you don't already have headphones. Regardless of whether you choose to use the 3D feature or not, be able to practice in privacy using with headphones is one of the definite advantages of any good digital piano these days.
Both models can connect directly to an iPad for another interactive way of learning about music and playing the piano, and I use iPad piano learning/teaching apps in my studio which provide a cutting edge visual way of interactive piano practice and learning. A unique feature of the Roland RP/F pianos is that they can do a wireless USB connection to an iPad using an optional Roland wireless USB adapter and specially created Roland iPad apps such as Piano Partner. I cannot stress enough the unique ability of these new pianos to connect to iPad wirelessly using interactive Roland apps. The Piano Partner Roland iPad app will display every single instrument sound title in the piano, every rhythm arrangement title, and a variety of user controllable functions that allows you to visually access (with your iPad touch screen) many of the internal piano functions that otherwise would be more difficult and less intuitive to use like they can be on other digital pianos. The future for using digital piano functions is through an iPad tablet and the future is here now with Roland wireless iPad connectivity and I am a big proponent of this technology and use it all the time. You will be amazed at just how easy and exciting it is to interface these two new models with an iPad. Also on these new pianos, there is to play music through iTunes (with tempo & transpose control) and hear it through the Roland piano speakers by way of a new Roland app without need of connecting audio cables from the piano to the iPad. You can download and hear all of your favorite iTunes songs coming straight into your piano with full iPad touch control of key pitch change, speed/tempo, looping any portion of the song to learn parts, and a lot more. The Air Performer app is visually stimulating and playing along with it is super fun when choosing any of the Roland instrument sounds. This is quite helpful and unique and I have not seen this feature offered on other brands before. The audio sound from other non-Roland iPad music apps still need some connecting cables but that's true of the other brands too. If you do not have an iPad, these pianos would make a perfect excuse to get one, and I recommend it.
As far as other connectivity goes, both pianos have USB output to computer, USB flash drive input to load and save songs, two headphone jacks, and stereo audio input and stereo audio output jacks, so there is plenty of external devices that can be connected which is very nice to have, especially because some pianos in this price range such as Kawai & Yamaha do not have this variety of useful connectivity including audio outputs and inputs. I use technology to teach piano students in my studio, so the more a digital piano has, the better I like it. For me personally there can never be too much connectivity options to external devices. The internal speaker system in the RP401R and F130R is the same with two speakers playing through two 12 watt amplifiers for a total of 24 watts of power. The stereo sound volume coming out of these pianos is surprisingly loud when you want it to be and is more than sufficient for most homes and studios and has been improved over previous models. However, even though the volume is plenty loud, it could use a bit more bass response to get a fuller tone more like the fullness (bassiness) out of a real piano. If you want an even louder and fuller sound in these Roland pianos you could plug in external stereo speaker monitors using the stereo audio output jack on the back of the pianos. In this way you could achieve a much greater instrument volume and fuller tone if you really want that and also blow your window out:). Sometimes an external sub-woofer connected to the piano may be helpful to add more bass response if you should want that, but some of the off-brand sub-woofers I have seen out there would not help much so you need to be careful what you get, so don't go getting any extra speakers until you contact me first and I can help you. However, the internal audio system with regard to volume on these new pianos will definitely satisfy most situations in homes and classrooms.
In the final analysis, there are many good digital pianos between $1000-$2000US available on the market today. However, for overall good piano playing realism combined with useful educational & fun features, in my professional opinion the RP401R/F130R cover most of the bases in this price range. For me personally, there are always a few things that I wish a manufacturer would have included and in this case an LCD display screen (like what the Casio PX780 offers at $899US)) instead of a simple LED screen would have been useful so you could see and better use the internal features and know what's going on when you select various functions. Also, a 2-track MIDI recorder instead of a 1-track recorder would have been nice and is especially useful when learning new songs or for students practicing their pieces. regard to the LED display screen on these two pianos, although the internal function menu is not necessarily as intuitive to navigate using its LED display as compared to a larger LCD screen, at least they have a display because many pianos in this price range don't have any display at all, including Kawai & Yamaha. So once you get used to it, it becomes fairly easy to use. Overall I think Roland did a very nice job this time in the $1000-$2000 price range, so both of these models should be seriously considered when shopping for a new digital piano. I believe the RP401R is the better buy of the two in terms of looks, design, music stand usability with correct height & built-in sheet music holders, access and view to controls/buttons, and the inclusion of a Roland bench with the RP401R....and I do recommend it. However, the F130R (no longer available - F140R takes its place) is a viable option in its price range with regard to its ability to reproduce a good acoustic piano playing experience with some cool digital features. Oh, and one more thing...the Roland factory warranty on these pianos is 2 years labor, 5 years parts with in-home service. That warranty is quite good considering the price range these pianos are in so Roland likely feels confident about the reliability of these pianos, and they do make reliable product based on my experience with them throughout the years as a piano teacher and pro musician. Do your research and your homework before making any buying decisions because there are many digital pianos in this price range to consider, and I would be happy to help you figure it out if you contact me.
A couple of the other good digital pianos to consider under $2000 is the newly released in the US (to the internet) Casio Pro division Celviano models AP460 and AP650. These 2 models actually offer more in a some areas with regard to key action, piano sound, features, and cabinet design. The AP460 is $1499US discount price and the AP650 is $1899US discount price. The AP650 is in a completely different league when it comes to the features that it offers as compared to the Roland RP401 so if you can stretch your budget just a few more hundred dollars then that model would be a good consideration for a longer term purchase. Both Celviano models even have a 5 year parts & labor warranty with in-home service as opposed to the Roland 2 year labor warranty, so that extra labor warranty is a big upgrade as well. Go to the following links below to read my reviews on these two Celviano models.
Casio AP650 Review
Casio AP460 Review
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