Casio AP-265, AP-270 REVIEW | Digital Pianos - Feb 2024


Casio AP-265, AP270 digital pianos
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REVIEW - Feb 1, 2024 - Casio makes two standard furniture cabinet digital pianos that are identical but have different model numbers. The Casio Celviano AP-265 and AP-270 are the same exact pianos with the exception that the AP-265 is sold primarily by Costco under that model number and the AP-270 is the mainstream version model number you will find on the internet. Otherwise they are the same piano.  

The AP-265/270 is part of a traditional furniture cabinet line of digital pianos called Celviano. They are the lowest price digital pianos in the Celviano line at just $999 (sometimes on sale for less money) internet price for the AP-265 at Costco and $1199 for the AP270 in the mainstream market. The AP-270 is available in 3 different matte cabinet finishes including matte black, matte walnut, and matte white and the AP-265 from Costco is only available in the matte black color.

Casio AP-265/ AP-270 piano
The factory warranty is longer and better on the AP-270, but there is normally a $200 difference between the AP-265 and AP-270, so it just depends on what you want. Also, it you want or need a brown or white color cabinet then the Costco AP-265 is not available in those cabinet colors.

In this lower price range for a traditional furniture style cabinet, the Casio AP-265/270 offers a more natural piano playing experience than some other brands in this lower price range that many people can afford. People who are looking for a quality instrument which can be a good fit for beginners up to intermediate players may like these models. 

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The Casio AP-265/AP-270 has some advantages over other digital pianos, but there is one area that is lacking, in my opinion, which causes me to downgrade it a bit.
This model has a somewhat weak internal speaker system with just 16 watts total power going through 2 speakers pointing downward under the piano. I have played this model many times along with other cabinet digital pianos that only have 16 watts or less and the sound coming out is somewhat anemic and just does not fill up even a medium size room very well. 

In other words, the piano sounds somewhat artificial through its own speakers because of the lack of power, only having 2 speakers, and the speakers pointing down under the piano. This is fine for some low price portable digital pianos, but when it comes to a furniture cabinet style around the $1000 price range, I just don't recommend it unless the piano will go into a much smaller room or you would be using headphones most of the time. 40 watts of amplifier power for a furniture cabinet digital piano should be the minimum you should get.

Having a lot of cool features on the piano is great and these pianos do have those things. But the piano sound needs to be good and strong so that it comes out more naturally and with enough volume so that you don't have to turn up the master volume control to maximum which then can cause distortion or sound anomalies. Casio has an upgraded model called the AP-470 with more features along with 40 watts of total power going through 4 speakers, and that model sounds great and I like it a lot. But it's normally $700 more than the AP-265 and $500 more than the AP-270.

A BETTER CASIO PIANO SOLUTION - 

THE PX-870


Casio PX-870 digital piano
However, Casio has a special cabinet model called the PX-870 at $1199 on-line price with 40 watts of internal power going through 4 speakers (2 of those speakers pointing forward) and also has top sound escapement ports so the sound can come up and out of the piano top like a real piano does. The PX-870 also has many more usable digital features as compared to the AP-265/270 to enhance the learning & playing experience. I personally like the Casio PX-870 much better than the AP-265/270 models.

Casio PX-870 digital piano
Also, right now we can get you a special unadvertised instant "REBATE" 
on the PX-870 (black cabinet color) while supplies last. Also there would be no sales tax on the PX-870 and there would be free shipping along with new factory warranty.  Please read my detailed review of the PX-870 at the following link: Casio PX-870 Review. We believe this model would be the much better investment in this general price range. The Casio PX-870 will give you more for the money in just about every way based on our experience with it.

AP270 pictureGetting back to the AP-265 and AP-270, you can layer two sounds together for simultaneous play such as strings and grand piano, as well as a split sound function allowing for an instrument sound on the left hand and a different instrument sound on the right hand. Other useful functions and features include transpose, an adjustable metronome for rhythm and timing training, and last but not least a 2-track MIDI recorder for left and right hand piano practice and playback. This 2-part recording system is something other brands of digital pianos do not have and being able to record and playback your left and right hand separately is useful for students. 

Most students need to practice and hear each hand one at a time, and for more advanced players, they are wanting to analyze their performance by listening to how each hand is doing one at a time and then played back together. You can also speed up or slow down the playback portion so that you can record the song at a slow speed and playback at normal speed or you can record at a normal speed but playback at a slower speed so you can better hear how you played and identify your mistakes better that way. Unfortunately the recorder does not have a way to offload songs onto something like a USB flashdrive to save your music like some other digital pianos can do, such as the Casio PX-870. 

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Key action movement and response is important in any digital piano and this where many brands and models fall short, especially in this lower price range. The AP-265/270 does a good job with the piano weighted key action playing experience along with very nice key movement response. The key action is called "tri-sensor" which simply means that Casio has 3 electronic sensors under each key rather than 2 key sensors as found in the Yamaha YDP-145 as an example, which is competitively priced. The 3rd key sensor normally allows for more accurate key repetition recognition when playing at faster speeds especially when repeating the same notes or doing trills, etc. At this price having a tri-sensor electronics under each key is a good thing and something that adds value to this model.

AP270 picture
Piano tonal and volume dynamics is where piano playing "expression" comes in and the AP-265/270 does an adequate job of that, only the low power speaker system in these models does inhibit that somewhat. When you are able to express yourself musically with many different tonal colors, then your musical comes alive and sounds more inspiring. The PX-870 with 256-note polyphony processing chip as opposed to the 192-note polyphony processing chip in the AP265/270 along with its much more advanced internal speaker system does a much better job offering more musical expression as compared to the AP-265/AP270 models. 

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The Casio AP-265/270 has a unique song playalong feature called "Concert Play" which offers a library of classical music in the piano which were originally recorded as CD wav file audio recordings in a "live" session with actual real orchestra instruments. You can select from any song in the concert library and then you can play along with those songs using the piano for the live sound. When you are playing back any of these orchestral songs you can also slow down the song playback speed so that it is easier to ply along, especially if you not know the song. The songs actually do sound very good and playing along with them is fun and it makes you sound better than you actually are:).

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With a total of 22 individual natural instrument sounds, the AP-265/270 furniture cabinet model offers more than twice as many instrument sounds as its nearest competitor. Accessing those sounds is pretty easy as they are listed right above the keys as opposed to other pianos that don't list them at all and you have to guess at what you are getting. The grand pianos sounds have their own dedicated buttons on the left side control panel for quick easy access.  

Casio AP270 picture
There are a few other features in this AP-265/270 that I have not covered but they are less important although can be fun and useful depending on the playing skill level you are at and the type of music you will be playing. One of the more requested features these days is to have a USB output to an external device such as an iPad. The AP-265/270 is USB equipped and I use iPad in my teaching studio quite often and some of those iPad apps are really amazing. They can teach kids and adults some important musical fundamentals in an exciting visually pleasing way which helps people to learn to play more easily and many times more quickly while learning important aspects of music theory and live play. 

Combined with a good piano learning curriculum the iPad apps (much better than Android music apps) can be a great source of music education and enjoyment in a way that can stimulate you and or family members to want to play piano more often and with less resistance...especially for kids who generally do not like to practice:). The Casio AP-265/270 can also work with Android apps, but iOS apps tend to offer some things you cannot get on Android products in terms of apps. If you want information on good useful apps that can work well for you, then please ask me.

Casio AP270 picture
So here's the bottom line; The Casio AP-265/270 is a lower priced digital piano with some good features in an attractive smaller traditional furniture style cabinet with matching piano bench, sliding key cover, and privacy panel with features that focus on a reasonably good piano playing experience. But as I mentioned earlier, the internal speaker system is disappointing in this price range just like other brands that have a low power speaker system. I would instead recommend to spend a little bit more to get something from Casio, such as the impressive PX-870, that can put out a fuller, richer, and more realistic piano sound. 

Dimensions and weight for these 2 Casio Celviano models are 56" wide x 17" deep x 32" tall and weighing in a just 81 lbs. The AP-265/270 does not have a lot of unnecessary bells & whistles so is good for families or players who mainly just want to play the piano and have many of the elements in a piano to do so. I do recommend these models for what they do, but for just a bit more money over the AP-265 I would much prefer to see people get the more advanced Casio PX-870. We can also help you get a special unadvertised instant rebate on the PX870 while supplies are available for this Christmas season.  Please contact us for more info on that.
 
If you want more info on new digital pianos and LOWER PRICES than internet discounts, please email me at tim@azpianowholesale.com or call direct at 602-571-1864.

8 comments:

Guy said...

Tim, first of all thanks for maintaining this site. A ton of great information here.

What are your thoughts on the AP 270 versus the new PX 870? As far as I can tell from online sources they are extremely similar, including in price, but with a different emphasis in a few areas. The 270 has a more attractive appearance and the Steinway samples. The 870 has higher polyphony and a more powerful speaker system (I have been leaning toward the 870 for this reason). Do you agree, or is there some other key difference I am missing?

Thanks.

Tim Praskins said...

either piano is a good choice. I prefer the Casio AP270 New York Steinway piano sound but if you want a bigger speaker sound and more functions like USB flashdrive, then the PX870 would be the better choice.

Anonymous said...

It's not an iPad app, it's also for Android and maybe Windows. This is important, not everyone has/likes iPad.

Anonymous said...

What are your thoughts concerning the difference between the AP-270 and the AP-460 models? It seems as though the new Steinway sound might be a deciding factor.

Unknown said...

This is also an important question for me. Can anyone help?

Unknown said...

Could you tell us the main difference between casio Ap 460 and ap 270 concerning audio? Is ap 460 grand piano sample as good? Ap 270 is compatible with Casio's Chordana app, whilst Ap 460 isn't. Should that be a deciding factor as well?

Unknown said...

please , your opinión about Roland Rp 102 VS Casio ap 270, only concerning about sound and mainly the key weight and its feeling. best regards from Spain

Anonymous said...

Could you tell me what are the major differences between the Casio AP-260 and AP-270? I understand the AP-270 replaces the 260. But what are the major 'upgrades', and are the upgrades necessary? thank you.